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Dr. Katrina Green's avatar

This is disgusting. The new law lets doctors legally discriminate and refuse to treat patients. That's not the oath I took. I've treated criminals, murderers, people with Nazi tattoos. Why? Because I swore to do no harm. And because treating everyone is the right thing to do.

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Rachel Wells's avatar

That's exactly what it does. It legalizes discrimination. Unreal, and yet real.

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Dr. Katrina Green's avatar

I’m concerned doctors will refuse to treat patients with substance use disorders because they believe it’s a moral failing instead of an addiction. And “Christian” doctors who believe being gay is immoral will refuse to treat LGBTQ patients Or patients who’ve had an abortion in the past. This is such an awful slippery slope.

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Screwing Little Screws's avatar

They will also refuse to prescribe pain medication to those in dire need because they believe narcotics are “immoral.” This is unfathomable and will literally kill many many people. Actually, what it really is, is ✨eugenics✨. Let’s just call it what it actually is.

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Kay G's avatar

Doctors already do that. Try going to an emergency room with a migraine. The ER staff are trained to believe that any woman coming in is trying to scam for pain meds. Men don’t face the same bias.

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Carol Heather's avatar

They do face a bias if they're not white. Black men in particular are accused of being drug seeking when they go to the doctor for pain management.

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Carol Heather's avatar

They do face a bias if they're not white. Black men in particular are accused of being drug seeking when they go to the doctor for pain management.

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Elizabeth Malayter's avatar

I agree. We know RFK, Jr is a proponent of eugenics. This is a very dark path to follow :(

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Mary Lilith Ruth's avatar

Yes I have a friend with serious health problems. They wouldn’t give him anything stronger than tramadol after cracking open his chest. He has never been a drug addict, even after knowing him 30 years I don’t know if he’s straight or gay, bisexual, he just used to tease them all boys or girls. He was in probably a tv show you have seen. Very minor parts but worked in Hollywood for years. He was a DJ for many years in Boston, where we met. He has been denied treatment for pain for years. He is a cat guy and thankfully has wonderful neighbors who check in on him, help him cooking and cleaning up a bit. He is mostly in a wheelchair. As he can’t walk far, like more than a couple feet. Has been for years. He wanted me to move there. Im thankful I didn’t.

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Karen Taggart's avatar

Thank you, Dr. Green!

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m cameron's avatar

It ripples out endlessly.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

If your story depends on keeping the doctor anonymous and the clinic unlisted “for safety,” while still asking the public to believe this is the first-ever national case… you’re not protecting the truth, you’re protecting a lie from being disproven.

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Glenn Simonsen's avatar

Yup. I think we're not hearing the whole story.

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Eureka's avatar

I’ve been waiting to hear of discrimination or loss of treatments against HIV patients.

We know Trump gutted HIV education and medication to limit transmission in the US and abroad. They’re hoovering up Medicaid data, and will absolutely be able to make an HIV positive person database.

Once upon a time, evangelical religious people wanted deaths from AIDS as a punishment for living differently than them. Science put a stop to that. But HIV positive people’s lives are fragile—-if their medications are taken away, the danger comes back. It’s a just a matter of time until this is another part of the 1980s we revisit.

When Trump’s buddy Roy Cohn contracted AIDS, Trump swiftly abandoned him. I doubt anything’s changed except Trump’s age.

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Elizabeth Malayter's avatar

Again, it is all part of that “you would be rich, white and happy, if you were among the chosen” Protestant myth and basis for getting rid of folks you have “othered” 😡

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Really? I'm reading all the comments and what I see are people who are dependent on drugs for everything 💊. Doctors are trained to recognize painkiller abusers 🚨. I'm brown-skinned, and I refuse painkillers every time I go to the ER 🏥, which most people find surprising 🤔.

So when people start complaining about being mistreated because of money, skin color, or sexual orientation, what I see is projection 🎭. Two years ago, I injured my shoulder 🤕. They gave me a muscle relaxer and pain medication. I only took the muscle relaxer, and the next day I was fine 💪. I'm not superwoman; I just don't load my body with drugs 🚫. That's why I recover faster ⚡.

Maybe someone had a bad doctor or nurse 👩‍⚕️, or maybe the story isn't even real, just created for outrage clicks 📱. Religious fanatics and political fanatics are the same: they love to control others 🎯. One uses religion, the other uses politics and identity. Both abuse sexuality and labels to silence and shame anyone who doesn't agree 🤐.

So yes, I'm brown 🤎. I'm not rich 💰. I'm not religious ⛪. And I recover fast because I take care of myself 💪. But now if I don't follow your narrative, I'm the problem 🤷‍♀️?

The problem existed long before Trump, I just gave it a label: TDS 🧠.

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G.G.'s avatar

VM either needs meds or has gone off their meds. If meds are not involved, they definitely need to seek professional help. This is not the place to find that help.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Ah yes, the First Amendment, free speech for you, but "seek help" for anyone who disagrees 🙄 I cite federal data, the CDC, and peer-reviewed science, and your response is to diagnose me from your keyboard? That's not debate, that's projection wrapped in emotional fragility.

But thanks for proving my point 💡 You don't want truth. You want control, and when facts challenge your narrative, you label dissent as mental illness 🎭

Spoiler alert: That tactic doesn't cancel my rights 🇺🇸 It just exposes yours 🦋

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G.G.'s avatar

LOL! Oh no, thank YOU for proving my point. Good luck with your issues!

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Marie's avatar

Completely Correct and this is what the left and liberals want to do, cause animosity

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(WDNF)²=EU's avatar

So would you deny care to an expecting mother because she is unmarried? What about rape victims? This isnt a question about race yet, its a question about where do we draw the line on refusing healthcare and what justifies that decision? This law allows any doctor to refuse service for very broad reasons, allowing it to be weaponized against anyone depending on the doctor. What if they decide its against their morals to treat a trump supporter? This law allows for those arguments to be made. Everyone should have the expectation of a doctor treating them because doctors swore an oath to do so and that oath doesnt have exceptions for the patients lifestyle choices.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

How many pediatricians refuse to treat children who aren't vaccinated? 💉 Plenty. It happens every day and yet I didn't see national outrage, protests 🪧 or hashtags for those families.

My own granddaughter was injured by the MMR vaccine medically exempt from further shots 💊 And what did her pediatrician say? "If she doesn't get vaccinated, I won't see her again." She was denied care as a child 👧 for something she physically couldn't take 💸 And nobody cared 🙄 Why? Because it wasn't politically convenient to be outraged 🎭

📊 According to a 2020 Healthline report 📰

51% of pediatric offices and 33% of individual pediatricians have policies to dismiss families who refuse all childhood vaccines 💉 often under the excuse of "protecting others" 🛡️

During a measles outbreak in L.A. 🌴 some practices refused both new and existing unvaccinated patients altogether 🚫 citing a "moral duty to do no harm" ⚖️

In Texas 🤠 the problem got so bad that the state passed House Bill 44 in 2023 to stop doctors from refusing Medicaid/CHIP children based solely on vaccine status 📋

But no one cried discrimination 😤 No one brought up "human rights" 🏛️ Because it wasn't trending 📱

So excuse me if I don't take the sudden "what about the unwed mothers?" outrage seriously 🎪 This isn't about compassion. It's about politics, tribalism, and control.

The same people who justified denying care to kids 👶 for not being vaccinated now want to scream religious discrimination ⛪ because a doctor opts out of something that violates their conscience 🧠

Pick a standard and stick to it 💪 Because this selective outrage? 🔥 It's fake. It's tribal. And it's tired 😴

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(WDNF)²=EU's avatar

Im sorry for your granddaughters situation, but i believe doctors refusing care for any reason should be outlawed. Im surprised based on her situation that you would argue against others facing the same circumstances. Wouldnt that make you more invested in this? Im sorry you're bitter that people care now and didnt then, but disregarding someone elses situation only hurts the next persons granddaughter.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Why do you assume I'm like you 🤔 Your comment is full of projection and honestly pretty condescending 🙄 You're making it about me, when what I'm calling out is the emotional manipulation 🎭 the selective outrage 😤 and the inconsistency in how people respond to different situations

I understand your tone , I recognize the guilt-wrapped-in-moral-high-ground energy ✨ But don't mistake my clarity for bitterness 💎 just because I'm not catering to your narrative 📰 I'm not dismissing the current outrage 🔥 I'm exposing why it wasn't there before 🤷‍♀️ and how it's being selectively weaponized now.

If you want to have a real conversation 💬 drop the condescension 💸 and stop assuming everyone thinks the way you do 🧠

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Yocaspeslawola's avatar

It makes sense that a doctor would refuse to see a patient that could become a potential biohazard, it's the most obvious preventative measure. How was your granddaughter injured by the MMR vaccine? What part of the vaccine injured her?

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G.G.'s avatar

Yes. It does make sense. I would also like to know how the granddaughter was harmed by MMR vaccine. And please include documentation to back it up. Parents would like to be informed by facts not conspiracy theories. Thank you. 🤔

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Medicine used to be a practice, now it's a cult 🙄 and clearly, you're one of the faithful 🎭 You don't question anything, and like any cult follower, you get offended the moment someone challenges your sacred doctrine 📜

When I told you my granddaughter's vaccine injury was well-documented, you didn't even blink 🚨 You brushed past hospitalization, blood transfusion, and lifelong medical exemption just to protect your "vaccines are perfect" script 💊

If someone reacts badly to penicillin, we stop prescribing it 💡 No one demands genetic sequencing to "prove causation" 🧬 But when it comes to vaccines? Suddenly we need peer-reviewed divine revelation to admit harm 📋 That's not science, that's denial in a lab coat 🥼

You claim medicine is about "learning" 🧠 Cool, then maybe start learning to listen when people share lived medical reality, instead of gaslighting them as threats to your worldview 🤷‍♀️

You don't defend medicine 🏥 You defend a system designed to silence the injured and protect pharmaceutical liability, not heal people 💸 That's not scientific progress, that's institutional cowardice 🔥

And the beauty of living in the U.S.? People like me can move to states with vaccine exemptions and medical freedom 🇺🇸 where children can actually learn in a healthy, vaccine-free environment 👶 Meanwhile, people like you can stay in your blue-state bubble, ruled by medical censorship, insurance dependency, and chronic overmedication, and call it "healthcare" 📺

It's ironic 🎪 The same group that takes every drug Big Pharma pushes, gets sick from the side effects, then gets mad when insurance refuses to pay for the consequences, now calls us the problem 💰

Keep your system of managed sickness 😤 We'll keep choice, critical thinking, and the right to say no 🦋

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

So let me get this straight 🙄 under your logic, it's perfectly acceptable for a doctor to refuse treatment to a child with a medically documented vaccine injury, simply because it doesn't align with your "biohazard" narrative?

My granddaughter was injured by the MMR vaccine at 15 months 💉 The day after the shot, her immune system went into overdrive 🚨 She needed a blood transfusion and was hospitalized for a week 🏥 She was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder and can't take most medications, not even Tylenol, because they trigger her immune system to attack her body 💊 At 2 years old, she had another severe reaction, this time to lidocaine, and was hospitalized again 🔥 Today, she's 10, unable to take any medication and medically exempt from all vaccines 📋 She can only take steroids to help her body heal, nothing else 💪

Can you imagine your child getting a fever and not being able to help her? But a doctor is fine refusing to help her because she's not vaccinated, ignoring her medical condition 🤷‍♀️ That doesn't go under his oath to "do no harm," but if a doctor refuses treatment to a pregnant unwed woman, suddenly that does violate "do no harm" 🎭

You're proving my point that this is false outrage because it only applies if it follows your narrative or your emotions. ✨

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Josie Esquivel's avatar

Boycott Tennessee!

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Brooke Ford's avatar

That was my thought exactly. This goes directly against what doctors swear to uphold.

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jonquist1's avatar

The word you are looking for is Christofacists.

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SSCANDREVA's avatar

The article should name the physician. Save people the time to find a doctor that meets the patients ethical needs. Like providing healthcare!!!!!!!

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Yamuna Ramachandran's avatar

This is malpractice. The woman should write a scathing Zocdoc review. That'll do them in. Why protect the doctor so much, even keeping their gender a secret?

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Janine DeCook's avatar

With the way people are nowadays, she’d (the pregnant woman) would probably be threatened or doxxed…

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Josie Esquivel's avatar

There are still lynchings in Tennessee. No one is safe, especially women.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Really? By who 🤔, the writer or the people pushing this narrative?

Bad doctors exist, but that's not the same as religious discrimination 🏥. These days, if things don't go someone's way, they instantly claim victimhood 🎭.

And let's be real, a woman 4 weeks pregnant already had out-of-state care lined up before being denied 🚗? That's not shock, that's a setup 🎯.

No doctor named, no complaint filed 📋. Just another story crafted for outrage 📢.

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Josie Esquivel's avatar

It depends on how you define lynching. Letting a woman bleed out in the hospital parking lot is, in this old nurse's opinion, a lynching. But if you want to call it murder, go right ahead.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

When propaganda meets emotion, your comment is the perfect example 🙄

She didn't die because the hospital "failed her" 🏥 she died because she followed a dangerous narrative that prioritized rhetoric over reason 📊 I read the story, and the facts don't match your sentiment 💡

It's always revealing how logic shuts down when emotions take over 🧠 But hey, that's what happens when people choose to feel instead of think 🦋

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Josie Esquivel's avatar

I'm an old nurse and have seen how the health care system actually works from the inside. And it doesn't work for poor women.

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Janine DeCook's avatar

Religious discrimination, really? From what I see, the far right Christian Conservative religious zealots are trying to push their beliefs down everyone else’s’ throats. They want to bypass the separation of Church and State in the Constitution. I worked in healthcare for decades and can tell you that doctors/practitioners pledge to do no harm which means help people who come to them for the help they are trained to give. Another point is that Jesus (the real Mediterranean brown person) preached to love and care for everyone, not just those who think exactly as we do. I agree that, yes, most everyone claims victimhood nowadays. This doctor is a prime example of that. “Heaven forbid” if he would have to care for an unwed mother!

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

We all know Tennessee is ultra-conservative 🙄 just look at their laws 📜 I personally would never live in a state like that 💅 And that's the beauty of the U.S. 🇺🇸 if you don't like one state's laws, you're free to move to another ✨ That's real freedom 🗽 not forcing every state to think the same 🤔

Yes, doctors are supposed to "do no harm" 💊 but they're still human and they show bias too 🎭 Were you this outraged when a doctor refused an organ transplant for a child who wasn't COVID vaccinated 💉 That happened, and many stayed silent 🤐 because it aligned with their beliefs 📊

People love to scream about "religious cults" ⛪ but what about the science cult that punishes dissent 🔬 censors opposing views, and has done equal or worse damage 💸 It's just dressed in lab coats 🥼 and peer-reviewed papers 📝 And now we've reached the point where science isn't a tool 🔧 it's become another untouchable religion ✨

So let's stop pretending 🎪 one ideology owns the harm or the hypocrisy 🏆

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Marie's avatar

Hear, hear, much better thaan I could have ever thought of saying🗽🇺🇸⚖️⛓️‍💥

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Marie's avatar

Im curious to know if this is a community like that of Amish or Mormon. I could see the shunning if that's the case. However, I agree that ALL WOMEN who are pregnant should receive prenatal care if they want it.

Prenatal care wasn't always used in the 50s, 60s, and 70s and I believe its over used to this day. I never sought prenatal care until I was in my third trimester and my children were born in the late 90s . Its a choice, but many think they have to have it.

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Marie's avatar

This is completely laughable because not all Mediterranean people are brown. Also, why choose to insert that? Oh, racism.... that's why. Who says Jesus was red? White? Brown or Black. No one these days knows. Ive always considered him darker than a European. And yes many Americans are from European decent.

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Sharon Hays's avatar

I'd like to think that he was colored by a rainbow. We're all a different shade, even white people are different shades. I've seen translucent white, to my old skin with spots of dark and light on tan with hints of yellow tones. I wouldn't care if someone was green. We're all human even if some don't act with humanity.

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Marie's avatar

What does their gender have to do with anything???

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Josie Esquivel's avatar

Everything

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Elidema25@gmail.com's avatar

Save another woman from that Doctor. If he is so proud of his “values” then all the state and county should know.

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Helene's avatar

Agree

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Janine DeCook's avatar

I would have agreed with the doc about the organ transplant. They are only given to people who will do everything possible to be successful. People living in those states aren’t so free that financially pick up and move like you say and also have family connections, jobs, etc. that keep them there. This is a futile argument and unless you are a Christian Conservative, I’m not sure why you are defending this doctor but whatever. The rest of us have the right to believe religiously or not but when it comes to taking care of the public, certain professions are supposed to have a duty to care for everyone including that asshole of a president we’re stuck with. Done with this argument.

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lpadron13's avatar

It won't name the physician because it never happened. A journalist would have first contacted the physician for corroboration or denial and asked why the patient didn't seek a 2nd provider nearby and in state as most people would do instead of seeking care in another state.

The story reeks of propaganda.

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Glenn Simonsen's avatar

Perhaps there are 2 sides to the story?

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Janine DeCook's avatar

Like what?

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Glenn Simonsen's avatar

Maybe the family are deadbeats and haven't paid past bills that they owe to the Doctor. How do you know her story is true when it's 100% allegation without evidence?

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Jane Gannon's avatar

So adolescents who get pregnant shall be denied pregnancy care by this abomination of a physician? Single women who get raped and are denied an abortion will also be denied pregnancy care by this abomination of a physician? Divorced women will be denied pregnancy care by this abomination of a physician??? This MONSTER has NO business being an OB GYN and the AMA has NO credibility if it continues to let him hold a license!!! End his career NOW!

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Adrienne Blume's avatar

While this is certainly outrageous and horrible, this is an individual who undoubtedly has his services reimbursed by commercial payers wherein denial of service to an eligible member of a plan for which the provider is an enrolled provider is a violation of the provider contract. Nevermind it's a violation of his professional standards and ethical code. He is not out of anyone's reach there. File a formal complaints about his professional conduct wherever you can. Let commercial payers know that you're aware of a provider in their network who is violating the rights of members. I know this is not the most gratifying or righteous path, but I would love for this guy to struggle to get paid, have to answer complaints to keep his license, and get the side-eye when obtaining malpractice insurance.

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Adrienne Blume's avatar

I'll add that I am Appalachian (WV) and a healthcare provider. It's very strange up here as well. Thank you for your work. ❤️

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Tom Mergens's avatar

Everything in the name of religion and guns. We should just change the Stars & Bars into a bible and an AR 15, and be done with it. Our “leaders” are already well on the road to making the US a theocracy.

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Karen Burke Morison's avatar

They believe it already is a theocracy, and they just need to get rid of the rest of us who don’t believe. Let me just say that, no one cares less for other people and their problems than a conservative Christian. And I say that after having worked with those people for years. So if you think people are being cruel now, they’ve only just begun to reveal who they’ve always been.

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Elizabeth Malayter's avatar

One of the several reasons why I hate my neighbors.

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jonquist1's avatar

You meant to say "Christofacists "

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Amy's avatar

That means doctors can refuse to treat MAGAs, too, if they disagree with their lifestyle!

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Karen Fischer's avatar

TN is literally a death state. And that includes a death of democracy for all women and men who care.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Remember: we live in a constitutional republic 🏛️. And the best thing that can happen to "democracy" is for it to die, because real freedom means being free to choose 🗽, not ruled by mob mentality 🐑.

If you truly cherish liberty, you wouldn't want "democracy" involved in every decision 🤔. Only those ignorant of the U.S. Constitution confuse democracy with freedom 📜.

Democracy is not even mentioned in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights 📋, because the Founding Fathers knew exactly what it would lead to: mob control disguised as progress 🎭.

We were meant to be free 💪, not ruled by religious cults or political zombies who get off on controlling others 🧟‍♂️. You should read my article about it: https://nofilterjustfacts.substack.com/p/democracy-freedom-read-the-damn-constitution?r=5m0r2x

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Laura Andreson's avatar

Thank you for covering this story! We need to keep telling the stories until people understand how horribly our reproductive rights are in TN!

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

People need to understand: when you live in a conservative state but act like you're in a liberal one, you pay for the consequences of your choices 🎯 or move out of the state, you have that choice.

I support abortion 🤷‍♀️, but not when it's used as a cover for poor decisions and reckless behavior from either side. It's 2025. If you're having sex, use protection 🛡️, not just to avoid pregnancy but to prevent STDs. The people who refuse to take responsibility are often the loudest crying that "the system" is against them 📢.

Now about this story... let's take a deep breath and use logic instead of emotional theater, shall we 🧠? Because this story unravels faster than a dollar store pregnancy test under scrutiny 🔍:

🍼 First: The woman says she was 4 weeks pregnant when denied care... but blames Trump's Medicaid changes 🚨? Reality check: Trump's "One Big Beautiful Bill" was signed July 4, 2025. Medicaid changes don't even begin until 2026 and phase in through 2028 📅. Unless she's got a time machine or psychic powers 🔮, blaming a law that wasn't active yet is pure fiction.

🏥 Second: The law that did exist was Tennessee's Medical Ethics Defense Act, a state law 🏛️. So if care was denied, it wasn't Trump, it was your local legislature, sweetie. Maybe call your state rep before writing a monologue for MSNBC 📺.

🚙 Third: She already planned to get care out of state before the alleged denial. That's not a reaction, that's a script 🎬. No one finds out they're pregnant and immediately books an out-of-state OB/GYN, unless it's a political stunt 🎭.

🧾 Fourth: Yes, "One Big Beautiful Bill" is real and Trump signed it. But here's the twist: none of it is in effect yet ⏰. Medicaid changes start in 2026, not last week. Saying people are "already losing care" is like blaming next month's weather for your frizzy hair today 🌩️.

📉 And that bold claim about this being the "first case in the country" of care denied for being unmarried? Where's the:

Doctor's name 👩‍⚕️?

Clinic 🏥?

Legal filing 📋?

HHS complaint ID 🕵️‍♂️? Just anonymous hearsay dressed up in emotionally manipulative fluff 🎪.

🔚 Final Verdict: This isn't journalism. It's a Hallmark movie written by someone who failed Civics 📚. If we're going to talk about healthcare seriously, bring receipts, not fanfiction soaked in outrage 💸.

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jonquist1's avatar

Impressively written by a tRumper.

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G.G.'s avatar

A trumper using AI.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Thank you again for confirming that what I said is fact-based 🙄 because we both know AI is built to prioritize logic, evidence, and clarity, not emotional projection like your comments.

And no, I don't deny using AI 🤖 I use it to make sure my responses are factual, logical, and free of emotional noise, as well as to clean up my spelling ✨ That's called using tools to stay sharp, not to hide behind a script.

If that makes me a "Trumper" in your mind, great 💅 all you've done is prove that you're not actually interested in truth. You just label what you can't argue against 🎭 That's projection, not critical thinking.

You should read my article on the circus of politics 🎪 because you're repeating exactly what I described: people who turn everything into a tribal performance because they've got no actual arguments.

Here's the link, in case you're brave enough to step outside your narrative bubble 📰 🔗 https://nofilterjustfacts.substack.com/p/the-circus-of-politics-when-patriotism 🦋

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Thanks for confirming that you're emotionally triggered and don't engage with actual arguments 🙄 If "Trumper" is all you've got, you've already lost the debate.

I bet you still don't realize we live in a constitutional republic, not a mob-ruled democracy 📊 That means we have protected liberties, not public opinion polls determining our rights.

The beauty of the U.S. is that if you don't like the laws of one state, you're free to move 🇺🇸 That's called federalism, not oppression. I wouldn't live in Tennessee, for example, because of its theocratic leanings. But I also wouldn't cry that I'm oppressed because the law reflects local values, that's the Constitution in action, not tyranny.

If recognizing mob rule disguised as morality makes me a "Trumper," cool 💅 I'd rather be that than a fragile collectivist who needs to silence others to feel free.

Thanks for proving my point in one smug sentence 🎭 That's some real intellectual depth you're swimming in 🦋

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bluebird's avatar

Democratic/sane doctors need to refuse care to Republicans on ethical grounds. And the public should know that doctor's name - women have a right to know which doctors are misogynists.

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Karen Burke Morison's avatar

I understand the sentiment, but we lose the high moral ground if we drop to their level. As Mama said, two wrongs don’t make a right.

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bluebird's avatar

I agree with you, except that they (Republicans) have explicitly passed an actual law to permit such (ridiculous and amoral) behavior. So perhaps they need to experience the consequences of their own law to grasp the implications first hand. Of course I can't imagine a non-zealot doctor actually doing that, so it's just a vent comment.

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Elidema25@gmail.com's avatar

Seriously? We are going to go with the let’s be nice while they deny basic prenatal care because the doctor who is paid with taxpayer funds wants to control how you live your life. The Democrats being weak and nice and taking high ground got us where we are right now. Fuck that shit.

Doctors who want to judge you worthy in order to treat you are violating their oath. Denial of health care IS HARM.

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Zelda Ross's avatar

My boyfriend & I were living in Hickman co Tennessee in the doing of 1975 we bought land built a house and worked for local farmers when we were arrested for Lude and lascivious behavior because we were not married facing a year in jail we went down to the Summertown commune and got married. It lasted 3 months before I fled back to NY alone. 3 years later I married my wonderful husband of 41 years. Tennessee not worth the stupidity

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Tennessee is a very religious state, that's true 🙏. And it's exactly why I wouldn't live there, just like I wouldn't live in California, New York, Illinois, or Massachusetts either 🚫. Why? Because those are political control states 🏛️. You don't escape one form of control by submitting to another 🔄.

The great thing about the U.S. is that you have choices 🗳️, you can live where the laws and values align with your lifestyle. But when people don't like conservative laws, they cry about religion ⛪. And when they move to blue states, they ignore that those states control your body and your wallet with politics, taxes, and endless regulations 💸.

Blue states push their version of morality through public health policy, censorship, and identity politics 🎭, and red states push theirs through religion and family values 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦. Pick your poison ☠️.

You say Tennessee "wasn't worth the stupidity," but your story wasn't about the state 🤔, it was about your own poor choices. Getting arrested for behavior you knew was illegal at the time and then blaming the state for enforcing it doesn't make you a victim 🚫, it makes you accountable ⚖️.

You say you fled to New York and found someone better, good for you 👏. But let's not pretend you escaped a cult and found freedom 🗽. You just switched from one system of control to another and now you're justifying it with moral superiority 🎪.

If you knew how much you're taxed, tracked, and manipulated in those same blue states 📊, you probably wouldn't be so proud of where you landed 🤷‍♀️.

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Zelda Ross's avatar

Wow seek Therapy

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Love the level of projection when facts hit you that hard 🎯. I do agree, you probably do need therapy if reading facts triggers you 🤷‍♀️.

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Zelda Ross's avatar

Beliefs are not the same as facts good luck

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Lynne's avatar

You sure do like to hear yourself talk lady. Give it a rest. Geesh your a bitch.

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Arlo's avatar

Girl.....lol. smoke some weed or smth.

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Ossiana Tepfenhart's avatar

This happened to me when I was pregnant. I will never, EVER trust a woman gynecologist again. The misogyny in that field is horrifying

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Emma Hudson's avatar

The fact that we’ve not heard about this law, which went into affect in April 2025 shows how the news media is totally failing on all fronts.

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Brian Cozad's avatar

“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” —‭‭John‬ ‭8‬:‭7‬, ‭KJV‬‬

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Nick's avatar

Trying to verify some of this. Were any efforts made to contact the physician? Also, what town hall was this at? Board of mayor and alderman for that town is on mondays, not thursdays and I could not find any reference to this in the online stream (granted it may not be in the recorded part).

Would just like some journalistic work here to confirm some of this.

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Sharon Hays's avatar

WTF. These people are so narrow minded. They should just go live in a cave so they dont have to deal with anything that makes them uncomfortable. This is reality. Everyone has a right to live their lives the way that they see fit, and that should be embraced. I'm tired of the conservatives who whine about having everything just their way and have to pass restrictive laws that infringe on everyone else's rights and freedoms. Their mommas spoiled them into thinking they're special and everything revolves around what they want. Makes me sick.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

People are free to move to states that match their values 🗺️. Tennessee might follow religious values ⛪, but states like New York are ruled by censorship, identity politics, and crushing taxes 💸. Let's not pretend that's freedom either 🚫.

Your comment is dripping with projection 🎭. You accuse conservatives of being spoiled and controlling, but you're exactly what you're complaining about 🪞, just wearing a different team jersey. You support mob rule and government control, then get mad when others do the same 🤷‍♀️. That's not principled, it's just hypocrisy.

And let me ask you: Do you even know what freedom means 🤔? Because cheering for censorship, groupthink, and punishing people who disagree with you isn't freedom 🗽, it's indoctrination 🧠. If you feel "sick," maybe it's from the brainwashing you've accepted as normal 🤖.

As an atheist 🔬, I'll take someone honest about their religion over someone pretending they're "free" while enforcing ideological conformity 📏. You're not free, you're just obedient to a different kind of dogma ⛓️.. You should read my article about Democracy, but I doubt it you will open your mind to it : https://nofilterjustfacts.substack.com/p/democracy-freedom-read-the-damn-constitution?r=5m0r2x

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Sharon Hays's avatar

Triggered much?

Reality is that not everyone is able to relocate due to several factors, nor should they have to. A state is made up of a wide variety of people with different ideologies, and needs to Compromise so that Everyone can live a good life.

I might read your article on Democracy if you have the proper credentials, such as a PhD in History, or Political Science or work in a professional institution such as an accredited University, bonus points for a well known University. Otherwise, it's an opinion piece from an angry person that may or may not have a personal bias (which apparently you have). My time is valuable and I choose how I spend it.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Ah, the classic tactic 🙄 when you can't refute the argument, you accuse the other person of being "triggered" and then demand credentials. That's not debate, that's deflection 🎭 And honestly, the level of projection in your comment is a joke.

You got triggered by facts, not tone 📊 And that says more about your emotional fragility than it does about my logic. People who confuse feelings with thinking often assume that being offended equals being smart. It doesn't. That's just another projection fallacy from someone who lacks critical thinking skills 🤷‍♀️

You don't need a PhD to read the Constitution or to recognize when freedom is being redefined as "agree with us or be punished" 🏛️ You just need common sense and the guts to apply it.

You say states need compromise. Sure, but not when "compromise" means silencing dissent, demonizing disagreement, and calling it "progress." That's not unity 🇺🇸 That's ideological conformity wrapped in moral arrogance.

And let's be real, if my article came from an academic institution, you'd still reject it because it doesn't feed your narrative 📰 You're not seeking truth. You're seeking validation.

Frankly, I doubt you even understand how critical thinking actually works, but you'll definitely keep getting triggered by my writing 📝 Not because it's extreme, but because it doesn't follow the script you've been conditioned to obey.

You're free to scroll past. I'm free to keep writing for people who think 🦋

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Sharon Hays's avatar

Lol

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G.G.'s avatar

VM either needs meds or has gone off their meds. If meds are not involved, they definitely need to seek professional help. This is not the place to find that help.

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Carey Ronning (Carey-Anne)'s avatar

She was looking for prenatal care. She even said that they really wanted the baby. Can you even read with your MAGA glasses on?

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

Actually, yes, I can read 📚. That's exactly how I caught the inconsistencies you ignored 🔍.

Let's review:

📆 She was 4 weeks pregnant when denied care, which would place the visit around May or early June 2025. But the "One Big Beautiful Bill" she blames for Medicaid cuts wasn't even signed until July 4, 2025 ✍️, and its Medicaid provisions don't take effect until 2026–2028 ⏰. So no, that bill didn't cause anything yet. Facts matter 🎯.

🧾 The denial she experienced (if real) came under Tennessee's Medical Ethics Defense Act, a state law 🏛️, not anything federal. Blaming Trump is dishonest and irrelevant in that context 🤷‍♀️.

And the most telling part? She already planned out-of-state care before being denied 🚙. That's not someone caught off guard, that's someone building a story 🎬.

So if you're done squinting through your emotional fog 🌫️, maybe take those tribal loyalty goggles off and try reading with logic instead 🧠.

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Carey Ronning (Carey-Anne)'s avatar

She said she believed she was 4 weeks pregnant which would put her due date in 2026. And she is not blaming OBBB. She is blaming the EO that have physicians the right to deny care based on their FEELINGS and not based off the doctor's oath.

After that the interviewer is showing how even the hospital closest to her MAY have to close as well as several other rural hospitals.

And for real, did anyone don't it was going to be signed after the Senate voted yes.

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Vivify Mariposa's avatar

You're confusing headlines with facts 📰.

🔎 There is no executive order signed by Trump on January 20, 2025, that denies care to pregnant women, none 🚫. The EOs he signed focused on biological sex definitions 📋, abortion funding limits 💰, and in February, he signed one that actually expanded access to IVF 👶, helping more women get pregnant, not blocking them from getting care. That's not "anti-woman," that's pro-natalist, like most of MAGA 🇺🇸.

🏥 As for hospitals, the only ones at risk of losing Medicaid funding are those providing services to illegal immigrants without following compliance rules 📊. Tennessee isn't exactly overrun by that scenario, so let's stop pretending every rural hospital is about to collapse because of it 🤷‍♀️.

🧠 Yes, able-bodied adults aged 19 to 64 will need to work, volunteer, or train at least 80 hours a month to keep Medicaid ⏰. But that policy starts in 2026, not now. So no, people aren't being kicked off coverage in 2025 📅. That's just another fake outrage headline with no timestamp 📢.

📅 The Medicaid and SNAP changes are phased in between 2026–2028 ⏳. If someone's already losing care in 2025, that's a state issue or hospital mismanagement, not Trump's bill 🏛️.

And the story you're clinging to? The woman said she was 4 weeks pregnant and had already arranged out-of-state care in Virginia before being denied locally 🚗. That doesn't scream emergency, that screams manufactured narrative 🎭.

The law behind her denial (if real) is Tennessee's Medical Ethics Defense Act, a state law 📋, not a Trump EO, and it was already in place before any federal bill passed.

So no, Trump didn't deny her care 🚫. This story is just another outrage generator built on zero facts and a whole lot of projection 🎯.

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